From the Mailbox: Are Certain Hermès Bag Colors Better for Resale Than Others?

An opinionated deep dive...

A few weeks ago I posed a question on my Instagram stories asking what you would like me to write about; I’m always happy to write about the latest and greatest, or whatever topic pops into my head, but most importantly, I want to write articles that you want to read. One request (a variation on a request I get fairly regularly) was “bag colors that are good for investment”. I thought this was a good topic to tackle, not necessarily as a list or a specific set of answers, but more as an exploration of why this might be a popular request and how any answer could even be definitive.

After all, there are a number of very loose components involved; the bags we buy are, of course, what we individually are attracted to, and what we are attracted to is completely subjective. Further, the bags we buy are from a rather limited pool of what is being manufactured and what is being made available at the time of purchase. Given the opportunity, I would buy a Birkin or Kelly of almost any size and leather in the color Parme, but unfortunately Parme hasn’t been produced by Hermès in at least 15 years (and so I cry). So I can’t tell you to buy Parme, or Rose Indienne, or any number of colors that are not being offered right now as a, ahem, “good investment”, although their scarcity does indeed make those colors good investments, even if retrospectively so.

This is Parme. I'm dead.
This is Parme. I’m dead.

I think a good place to start is to revisit my very first Hermès article for PurseBlog, “Is Your Hermès Birkin or Kelly Truly an Investment?”, in which I delineated a list of Investment Factors one should consider when evaluating a bag purchase from an (admittedly unidealistic, but definitely practical) investment perspective. I knew this was a pretty thorough article when I wrote it back in July, 2019, and it was so well received that other sites republished my information several months later.

To recap, my Investment Factors were:

  • size
  • color
  • hardware
  • leather
  • year
  • condition
  • special status (SO, verso, etc)
  • selling platform, and
  • resale tolerance

These are, to my understanding, the factors that will most affect the resale value of a bag. These factors do not all have equal weight – I personally think that having a bag which is a Special Order, or something particularly limited (most of the time; in some cases a special bag is not necessarily more popular; think Flag Birkins) will always have a bigger effect on the resale price than, say, one particular year of production over another. While some factors are truly matter-of-fact, like the condition of a given bag, most have a really subjective impact; for example, some people love Epsom (it’s light, it holds its shape, it takes colors beautifully), others don’t like it at all. Some people are GHW only, or feel that a particular batch of togo was less/more veined, or only want a particular size.

Color, too, is extremely subjective, but while most of the other factors are pretty much the same every year – current leather options don’t change very much, with occasional new offerings; any bag you buy at the boutique is most likely going to have Palladium or Gold, or possibly Rose Gold Hardware (rarely you might find Permabrass or, for Special Orders, Brushed Hardware; Guilloche and Ruthenium are not currently available) – available colors are constantly changing.

Some colors I would consider to be relatively rare, having only been offered for a season or two (such as Ciel); some are pretty much standard and in production all the time (Noir and Gold); some come and go with the seasons and then come back again, or are produced with the standard offerings for a few seasons in a row (Bleu Electrique, Bleu Paon, Rose Confetti). So this factor is both subjective and always changing. Of course I pick the easy concepts to tackle first.

Photo courtesy of @The_Notorious_Pink
Photo courtesy of @The_Notorious_Pink

Color Categories

Let me start by saying that: 1. I am merely providing a framework to evaluate colors; and 2. this is all purely my opinion and is (I cannot say this enough!) completely subjective. My color preferences are unique to me, although I am doing my best here to be as objective as possible, basing my opinions on what I have seen in the marketplace over the past 23 years (as my husband can attest to my late-night website scrolling, I have always tried to keep myself up-to-date on resale matters, purely as a personal interest, although I have found it to also be a very useful soporific). This subject matter may also be perceived as at least slightly cynical, because ideally we are not “supposed” to be buying these bags with a thought to resale value. However, this is a topic that gets discussed regardless and therefore has merit for exploration. This subject was requested by a reader, but I wouldn’t have written it if I didn’t find it at least somewhat interesting and possibly useful for PurseBlog readers; it has certainly been the topic of many a PurseForum thread (and this one. And all of these…) Moreover, these bags are very expensive and, as we all know, fairly easily fungible: it’s good to at least have an idea of what you are getting into financially when you’re eyeballing, say, that Swift 35cm Gris Perle Kelly at 3:00 am.

Photo courtesy of @The_Notorious_Pink
Photo courtesy of @The_Notorious_Pink

So, with the understanding that this is just a summation of what I have observed over the years and is not any sort of judgement of one color over any other…let’s begin.

I find it easiest to evaluate when you can categorize the different colors by basically (if not absolutely) subjective factors. There are two basic subtypes of colors, one dealing with general appeal and the other regarding availability. Each has a spectrum.

As far as appeal goes, there is absolutely a fan for every color. While there are some colors most people love, there are some colors that are very…particular. That does not at all mean that they are unpopular, but certainly they won’t work for all climates, or color palettes, or they can be very tricky to dress around. An example might be Vert Criquet or Flamingo. Some colors might be pretty on their own, but have a lot of competition when compared to similar colors and come off as not quite as good: if a color like Bleu Saphir sets the standard for a dark navy blue, it’s surrounded by other colors which don’t quite hit the mark, or have undertones which aren’t as universally appealing ats Bleu Saphir. I will just call these colors – like Vert Criquet and Flamingo – Particular.

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Photo courtesy of @The_Notorious_Pink

There are other colors which, again, might not work for everyone, but generally many people love. These are the “grail” colors. Think Rose Sakura (a color which I personally love but would actually be afraid to own because it is so light), or Vert Emeraude. These colors are (for lack of a better word) Popular.

Photo courtesy of @The_Notorious_Pink
Photo courtesy of @The_Notorious_Pink

Then there are the Neutrals. Some of these are Popular (Gris Asphalte), some are Particular (Kraft), some are just…neutral: classic, beloved, easy to wear.

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Gris Asphalte may appear in togo to have a pink undertone; Kraft has a lot of yellow. Photo courtesy of @The_Notorious_Pink

Then there is the matter of availability. As I mentioned, some colors are fairly Standard; that is, available pretty much every season. This includes colors like Etoupe, Rouge H, Gold, Noir, Bleu Saphir and Anemone.

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These colors tend to be offered by Hermès every season. Photo courtesy of @The_Notorious_Pink

Alternatively (and finally!) there are the Rare colors. While any color other than the Standard offerings are rare, some colors were only offered for maybe one or two seasons, or haven’t been offered for a very long time. They may be Popular (Mykonos) or Particular (Vert Chartreuse) or Neutral (Ardoise).

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Photo courtesy of @The_Notorious_Pink

So we have the following categories: Standard, Rare, Popular, Particular and Neutral. Any color can be in more than one category (although for my purposes it may only be Standard OR Rare OR neither, it may also be Popular OR Particular OR neither). Colors that are neither Particular nor Popular and also colors that are not Standard or Rare are not specifically categorized by a name, as, for example a color may be Rare and Popular, Rare and Particular, or just Rare (neither Popular nor Particular), or may be Standard and Neutral or Rare and Neutral or just Neutral (neither a Standard nor a Rare color). We tend to categorize colors as either Neutral or Pop, so a separate category name isn’t necessary, for the purposes of this exploration it’s either a Neutral color or it’s not.

Therefore, the categories I have come up with are these:

  • Rare
  • Rare Popular
  • Rare Popular Neutral
  • Rare Neutral
  • Rare Particular
  • Rare Particular Neutral
  • Standard
  • Standard Popular
  • Standard Popular Neutral
  • Standard Neutral
  • Standard Particular
  • Standard Particular Neutral
  • Popular
  • Popular Neutral
  • Neutral
  • Particular
  • Particular Neutral

Use of Categories

Now, you can’t precisely determine the  resale value of a particular color based on one category. But I think as a general matter we can agree that Rare colors will generally be more desirable than Standard colors and Popular Colors will be more desirable than Particular colors. I don’t think Neutral colors are, generally, more or less popular than colors that are not Neutral.

In this case, I would start to order desirability like this:

  1. Rare Popular & Rare Popular Neutral
  2. Rare & Rare Neutral
  3. Rare Particular & Rare Particular Neutral
  4. Standard Popular & Standard Popular Neutral
  5. Standard & Standard Neutral
  6. Standard Particular  & Standard Particular Neutral

But is every Rare Particular Color (Crevette) more desirable than a Standard Popular Color (Rouge H)? Which is more important, Rarity or Popularity? Between the two options, I think it might be just a little trickier to sell a Particular color; a Rare Color which is difficult to wear isn’t as easy as a Popular Color which is a bit more common. Therefore, I would adjust the list like this (and remember, this is just a general framework, not an absolute rule):

  1. Rare Popular & Rare Popular Neutral
  2. Standard Popular & Standard Popular Neutral
  3. Rare & Rare Neutral
  4. Standard & Standard Neutral
  5. Rare Particular & Rare Particular Neutral
  6. Standard Particular  & Standard Particular Neutral

Where, then, would I put the colors that are neither Standard nor Rare? Probably between the two.

  1. Rare Popular & Rare Popular Neutral
  2. Popular & Popular Neutral
  3. Standard Popular & Standard Popular Neutral
  4. Rare & Rare Neutral
  5. Standard & Standard Neutral
  6. Rare Particular & Rare Particular Neutral
  7. Particular & Particular Neutral
  8. Standard Particular  & Standard Particular Neutral

Of course, beyond the few examples above, I have not defined what colors meet any of these definitions, and this is because, as stated, my purpose here is to open the conversation and to provide a general framework for evaluating the subjective value of any given color which you may be considering. Sitting here writing this, I wonder whether I could even come up with a “Standard Particular Neutral” color (would one even exist??). I don’t think it’s too hard to get an idea of which categories most colors fall into, although again there is a lot of subjectivity to it. (Gold is a Standard Popular Neutral, but what is Rose Pourpre? A purple-pink shade that’s been around a few years but is neither Standard nor Rare…unless you get to the hardware, but that’s another topic….)

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Photo courtesy of @The_Notorious_Pink

There are colors for everyone; there are a number of threads that discuss “best” or “worst” H colors”; I’m here to discuss why someone might say a color is one or the other. The question is, are you concerned about purchasing a certain color? Are you choosing between two colors? As long as you can evaluate the colors objectively, and get an approximate idea which category (or categories) the color would fall into, your decision gets a bit easier. Without being too specific, then, there are a few general comments I would add with regard to actual colors.

As a practical matter I don’t know how much difference there is between one category on this list and the one right above or below it, for example, a Standard color versus Rare Particular color. Is one more desirable than the other? For me, this is a close call and really does depend on the actual colors involved and the other resale factors. If you go on any resale website you are going to come across MANY black, gold and etoupe bags, and many of them linger for a while, but color is one of many factors and these colors also sell very well.

To get some hard data, I did a brief evaluation using a well-regarded resale website that makes available the data from their recent sales, so I could look at the various colors sold recently (as well as their condition, so that I wouldn’t be comparing perfect bags to very vintage ones). I am not naming the specific website, but it has an excellent reputation for Hermès and is not one the larger resale sites.

Website X: Top Ten Realized Birkin and Kelly Sales, Spring 2021
Website X: Top Ten Realized Birkin and Kelly Sales, Spring 2021. It was interesting, as a side issue, to note that this list contains both Birkins and Kellys of various sizes (except the larger Kellys; several 32 cms sold for $15,000, which seemed to be the top price).
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These colors did very well for resale prices on Website X this year. Photo courtesy of @The_Notorious_Pink

The things that jumped out at me: out of the top ten realized prices from this reseller, five – 50% – of the top selling bags were black; all the usual types of hardware were on the list; the various smaller sizes were represented, Birkins accounted for 6 of the 10 (and for the top 50 bags this proportion was the same for every group of 10 except one) I have to say that, even after all my years of collecting I was a bit surprised to find – all things being equal – black is the best selling color and fetches top prices if the condition is good. It’s not that black isn’t the most popular color; of course it is. Black is multi seasonal, goes with most colors and wardrobes and works anywhere in the world. I was just surprised that we are nowhere near a saturation of the resale market for that color.

Etoupe and the usual popular neutrals also do very well. Beyond that, (and this is no surprise to me) Pink is always popular and the various shades of pink (and other colors that lean pink) in general do very well. By the same token oranges, and browns and reds that lean orange, can be a bit trickier; even though orange is the official color of Hermès, it is not a feminine color, it can be harder to match, it may have seasonal connotations (Halloween) or seem more limiting in what one can wear with it. This was borne out during my evaluation of recent sales. Also white, though very popular, is very difficult to maintain and may turn yellow, which I am advised Hermès will not fix, so it seems to fall in the middle of the range, and not as well as other neutrals.

Some of the many popular shades of pink. Photo courtesy of @The_Notorious_Pink
Some of the many popular shades of pink. Photo courtesy of @The_Notorious_Pink

Another way to look at this is: colors that are clear and easily definable do better than colors which are muddy, or hard to describe, or have odd undertones;  Rose Thè and Rosy, while comparatively rare, are neither pink, nor coral, nor tan. Similarly, Lichen and Toundra are olive-y greenish browns. These colors are somewhat sedate and muddy. By contrast, Rose Mexico is a bright pink and Bougainvillea is coral; Vert Olive is a true olive; Bambou is bright green.

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Photo courtesy of @The_Notorious_Pink
Photo courtesy of @The_Notorious_Pink
Photo courtesy of @The_Notorious_Pink

Other colors that tend to do well: light blues; bright purples, bright greens and true reds; most grays; darker colors that can serve as a more fun alternative to black; typically “feminine” colors; and gold/fauve (if the condition is good).

So the takeaway is, there really aren’t many big surprises with bag colors that are good for resale: it’s the colors we see people buying. Black and the popular neutrals; pinks; the rare popular colors. For more of the sales list, see below. Of the top 32 prices, 17 were neutrals (8 Black, 2 Etoupe, Etain, Craie, Asphalte Bleu Saphir, Gris Mouette, Gold, and Vert Amande); 7 were shades of pink; 3 were reds; 2 were pop greens, and 2 were blue.

More details of recently realized prices. The entire list is the 100 more recent sales, this is the top 32.
More details of recently realized prices. The entire list is the 100 most recent sales, this is the top 32.

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Justice

I love that this is all pretty much made up and yet absolutely accurate in its assessment. I totally agree with your statement though: color is subjective, especially with Hermès. I love seeing people carry wild H colors even though I would be hesitant to branch out too much. It’s just fun!

Notorious Pink

Thank you SO much ?. I’ve done my best to be as accurate as possible, knowing my opinions are just that, and are no more or less valid than anyone else’s, but also trying to be helpful. And I DO love the wild colors, but I have a genuine appreciation for neutrals (in particular, blue-grays). I think one of my favorite things about PurseBlog/PurseForum is seeing people genuinely rock colors that would never suit me. It’s very inspiring!

Lindy

Can I ask about Etain? Some images it looks very ‘tin’ grey grey!! And others it looks grey but has a beautiful mild warmth of brown to it. Does this colour vary? Or does it differ slightly depending on the leather being togo or epsom? I’m curious as it was my next colour and I see so much variations of it that I’m not so sure now

Vlad Dusil

I have a somewhat unrelated anecdote that comes to mind. A few months ago I took a trip to the local post office branch. As I walk out, I noticed a ghastly green Porsche Cayman GT4 pull up. The gentleman was in his late 60s and his co-pilot was a buckled up skeleton with a blonde toupee named George.

I expressed my appreciation for his car (and his hilarious co-pilot), he disclosed that it was the first PDK GT4 delivered in the US. We got chatting about his car history, which was vast and colorful, lots of performance exotics and rarities. I commented on the unusual venom-green color of his GT4 and he told me his secret to retaining excellent resale value of his vehicles.

His theory was that if you ordered a relatively rare car in an unconventional, unpopular and unexpected color, you had a much better chance to unload it at a higher resale price than had you ordered the car in yet-another-predictable shade of grey. This way he had recovered most of his investments and often times even made money on the resale, coupling the rarity of the model itself with the unusual colorway. Made sense to me, perhaps the same can be said about unexpected H colors.

Notorious Pink

I love this anecdote! And it’s true – that color is very rare, and would be much more in demand than the standard gray. Thats exactly why I was surprised to find that black is the most popular – I mean, it’s great color, but I thought that the market would be somewhat saturated. Let’s hear it for rare, particular colors!

Justice

That’s a great anecdote. And I know very little about cars myself. ? My current car is a very boring shade of gray—I think VW calls is Platinum. My experience with Vuitton (which is the largest part of my bag collection) has been that most of my runway/rare bags have been more challenging to sell than my more traditional bags (aka Momogram canvas). The most obvious exception to that fact is the monogramouglage pieces, which I sold a couple of years ago for way, way, WAY more money than their original retail. It is my impression that Vuitton second-hand buyers are mostly attracted to the instantly-recognizable monogram. My rare beauties don’t seem to get the same kind of unconditional admiration from ThePeople™?.

Shevvi Crowley

Such a detailed post. Maybe as another post share bags that can be found in a leather color similar to Parme. I never knew I needed that color in my life but now that I’ve seen it noothing else will do.

Notorious Pink

Oh, I would love to! I will be happy to make suggestions/enable!

Heidi

I realize your post is subjective and I mostly agree with you, but I disagree about Vert Criquet (V.C.). To my knowledge this color was only introduced last year and my SA said it was their top selling color. V.C., especially in Birkin 25cm is selling higher, on secondary sites, than other colors (pink being the exception). Maybe it’s expensive because it’s in limited supply; however; I think it’s fresh and beautiful. (My subjective opinion vs. yours…it’s all good). ?

Notorious Pink

??? I do like Vert Criquet…actually I have found that I genuinely like most Hermès colors, even though they won’t all work on me (including some colors that I love). I’m just not sure if VC is doing so well because it’s popular or because it’s rare/new. I just think it could be tricky for some people – like a lot of the yellow-green shades (Jaune Bourgeon, Vert Chartreuse, Kiwi) and the orange-red (Orange, Rouge Tomate, Geranium) shades. But yes, it’s all good!!!

Justice

That’s interesting. I don’t like vert criquet at all but I like colors that others don’t care for (aka lime). Everyone has different taste, which makes it fun!

Angela

The following is my experience / feeling browsing resellers: Vert Criquet was the new “it” color of that season and it got pushed up quickly in resale value. A lot of buyers / resellers were promoting it, it got hot, then more people want it because it is hot so they have to have it…sort of a feedback loop. It has since come down in value because people are not onto the next it color – Jaune Poussin is my feeling because I’m now seeing those sellers who promoted VC promoting JP the next season. These seasonal / more particular colors can become very popular due to this, but they will end up being seasonal (as opposed to timeless ones such as black).

Heidi

Yes, this is true re: these colors are seasonal & prices soar. However, re: the VC I’m still seeing them at ridiculous prices especially the Birkin 25cm (New Hermès Vert Criquet Epsom Sellier Birkin 25cm Gold Hardware $ 32,500 from an established online New York retailer). Maybe Covid also had something to do with the dramatic price increases since the artisans weren’t creating Birkins and Kelly’s.

Angela

I saw one listed by a private seller recently sold for like 24k. They are still expensive but are coming down. I wonder if sellier B (newer style) helps to make them more expensive too. Furthermore I know in certain Asian boutiques where the SAs will directly tell you what your “pre spend” needs to be before a bag offer, people have been doing 2:1 prespend for Jaune P and it’s now 1.x for VC (used to be higher).

Angela

I just went back and checked that private seller, they happen to have a Jaune P B25 sold and this one was approx. 27.5K USD (all converted, this is an Asian based reseller). So I think VC is still quite hot just probably not the hottest.

Angela

people are now*** onto, not not. Typo!

Max Brownawell

a ‘Standard Particular Neutral’? how about White?

Notorious Pink

Hmm…to me, white is a standard neutral. I don’t think it’s particular, because it’s easy to match, though hard to care for – although my mother insists that white would be her top choice color for a Kelly…so even in my own home we disagree, lol!

SusanATL

I’m curious, if “white” is prone to yellowing, is Craie (which is more of an off white/cream) also prone to doing that, too? I thought I wanted a Birkin in Craie, but if it could potentially yellow, I def wouldn’t want to deal with that issue down the road. Appreciate your thoughts on this!

Lourdes Suarez

Hi Susan, at all. I have a custom made 35 white with blue interior birkin and its white as snow HOWEVER I must say, I have come to understand why Hermes doesn’t really make that many white birkins or Kellys and its becasue keeping them white is a little bit of a problem. I take care of it religiously and use it only for certain things but to answer your question white has not turned yellow. Craie is beautiful as well.

Notorious Pink

That’s great to know! I have avoided white for just this reason. From what I understand, the issue is only with white, not Craie, or Nata, etc. Funny enough, my mom ONLY wants a white bag.

Kandice Pauley

I have a Kelly 25 Sellier in Framboise with palladium hardware from 2002 in chèvre leather and it’s in excellent conditioncomment image . They just came out with framboise again. Makes me wonder how rare mine is and what it would be worth on the resale market? ?

Notorious Pink

Oooh Framboise chevre is beautiful. Of course, it’s hard to guess what the resale would be, because it’s not just the color – condition, age, leather (chevre hasn’t been offered outside of SOs for years), etc all play a role. Just FYI I know this color is available again but I havent seen any new Kellys in this color yet.

Lourdes Suarez

I absooooolutly love your posts, I love to see the colors, your opinion and research. For those of us that consider anything and almost everything Hermes a piece of art but also an investment, your blogs give us information and greeeeat reading material. Thank you very much

Notorious Pink

Ooooh, thank you!!!??? I am always happy to help, and I’m so glad that you enjoy my articles!

Jan

I love your detailed informative blogs. You are a wealth of knowledge. I am lover of the Birkins. Currently have a black and Hermès orange.
I am looking to add a Kelly 28 and my favorite color is Rose absolute. I just love it. I love the fun pop colors.
Any idea on where we can find out when it was last produced? I can’t seems to see color for autumn/winter 21/22 either?
What are you thoughts on the bigger size bags versus smaller sizes ? I personally like the bigger sizes but small is all in?

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