In the fashion industry (and, increasingly, in any industry), the phrase “Chinese craftsmanship” is usually an implied pejorative. Fairly or unfairly, things that are made in China are generally assumed to be less well-made than those made in Europe or the US, and much has been made over a handful of Chinese product recalls that have been announced for deadly dog food and baby formula or lead-filled toothpaste.

So when Hermes says that they’re going to launch a Chinese-designed, Chinese-manufactured luxury brand, surely they jest, correct? Wrong. Hermes never jests. According to Women’s Wear Daily, the new brand, Shang Xia, will be helmed by a head designer from the Chinese mainland, feature products made from Chinese materials and techniques and be autonomous from the design influence of its legendary parent company. All things considered, is it time to reevaluate our preconceived notions about Chinese-made goods?

Developments in Chinese fashion probably can’t be extrapolated out to optimism about more mundane Chinese exports, but considering how strongly so many of our forum members feel about their favorite brands outsourcing manufacturing to Asia, it’s still a phenomenon worth discussing.

In her oft-quoted book Deluxe: How Luxury Lost Its Luster, Dana Thomas explains some unfortunate, well-hidden truths about Asian fashion manufacturing. As it turns out, many of those “Made in Italy” or “Made in France” tags on our favorite bags are technicalities at best. As is the case with lots of electronics, cars, appliances and other consumer items that boast a “Made in the USA” label, most of the components that go into the manufacture of our handbags are made overseas, often in China, before they’re shipped to their final assembly destination to receive their finishing touches and the all-important tag.

Some brands still do all their manufacturing where they say that they do, some save the European manufacturing for runway pieces and outsource the more mundane things to China and some do it all overseas. They all go to great lengths to hide any of their Asian manufacturing from the eyes of their consumers, but fashion is a bottom-line-focused business and Chinese factories present an opportunity to save money that’s too difficult to resist.

Is that necessarily a bad thing? Maybe not. Not all Chinese factories are created equal, and I don’t see why it would be impossible for a brand to enforce meticulous quality standards in whatever factory and country that they choose to produce their bags, as long as they have the correct oversight structure in place. Sure, China is known as the originator of many of the fake handbags that we all hate, but that doesn’t mean LVMH or a company nearly as powerful couldn’t build a state-of-the-art factory for authentic goods down the street. There is nothing inherent in Chinese soil that means that everything that we import from the country must be total crap.

Hermes’s investment in Chinese craftsmanship is perhaps the most striking measure thus far to indicate that China is coming into its own as both a market for and source of luxury fashion. Much has been made over the country’s burgeoning middle class, and it only stands to grown more over the next decade. It’s natural that consumers with newfound expendable income will look to companies in their own country for goods on which to spend it, and giving the Chinese an opportunity to do that may very well be a lucrative venture for the people behind this decision at Hermes. In addition to that, it’s one more step towards legitimizing Chinese manufacturing in the Euro-centric fashion industry, for better or for worse.

Original article via Women’s Wear Daily.

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  • Shoppa Holique

    Japan, apparently, was known for inferior products in the 70′s, but look at japanese products now. I think China’s going that way too.

  • Linda

    and everyone is ok with this? – Especially after reading about lead in everything that comes out of that country? I guess people will still continue paying upwards $6k and more! – Not me!!

    • http://www.purseblog.com/ Amanda Mull

      To be fair, the lead issues where in PVC bags and as a result of the manufacturing process for PVC, which would be the same in any country and is not an inherent feature of a Chinese-made bag. Plus, large portions of pretty much everything we use, including our high-end bags, are already made in China, even if the final assembly point is elsewhere. And Hermes isn’t moving handbag production to China, they’re launching a completely different brand that they want to base on traditional Chinese workmanship – there were thousands of years of rich Chinese history before Westerners ever built factories there.

  • karen

    i for one would never buy it….

  • Jean

    Hermes products coming out of the GREAT country of human rights… SURE!!!!!!!!!!! lol

    • Terri

      I have to agree China and Human Rights seem to be an oxymoron. I still remember the images of Tiananmen Square protests in late 1980′s. Nevertheless I am keeping an open but cautious mind.

  • Michelle

    When Coach moved their line from the USA to China, the work suffered. When Chloe moved parts of their line to China, people asked, “why is this still blouse 2,000 dollars?” This will be a huge mistake for Hermes. It will cheapen the brand and the entire Hermes house will be affected, even if it’s only a part of the line. I will never, ever buy another Hermes product again. Not because of the fact that it’s “China and not Europe” but because anyone with half a brain knows that ‘quality control’ in a country that is one of the worst human rights abusers in the world and ‘quality control’ in a country that offers it’s citizens a 5-week vacation per year are very different things.

    When you hear something is made in China, you think low end-fair or not. The reason for that is because people the world over have seen the reports of long hours, low pay and nearly slave-like conditions. Factories of high end goods have been known to coerce their employees to speak highly of the operation when American/European brand owners visit for their quality control reports.

    Not to mention it’s virtually the biggest counterfeit nation.

    No thank you. I bid you adieu, Hermes.

    • http://www.purseblog.com/ Amanda Mull

      But…Hermes is not moving the manufacture of any Hermes products to China. They’re launching a Chinese-centric brand. Is there not a distinction there?

      • Shoppa Holique

        Sadly no, everyone’s blinded by discrimination.

  • Mrs. T, thebaghagdiaries.com

    I guess this is still good news somehow though– Hermes is making sure that this brand is to operate separately and that Hermes is established as a brand that doesn’t make its leather goods in China. The speculation though about the origin of the bags that Hermes will sell from thereon, will begin. It’s inevitable

  • Mrs. T, thebaghagdiaries.com

    Oh and to add to what I wrote earlier, there hasn’t really been a “Chinese” luxury brand (Chinese- “owned” luxury brands with European roots don’t count) that went global. Shanghai Tang is one that I know of. So, Shang Xia perhaps will mark the beginning of the “genuine” Chinese luxury brand.

  • 19yearslater

    If brands like Coach and Dooney fall on the fashion scale for moving to China Hermes shouldn’t get a break. However, I don’t think that’s the issue at hand here. Hermes is designing for China, which is a good move as China has arguably the largest expanding fashion market right now.

  • An4

    interesting article, thank you Amanda. my friend studies Chinese and has been to China, he told me that although there’s a lot of poor quality stuff, there’s also a lot of it that is very well made, but it just doesn’t get to us, it’s for their market.
    I personally don’t care where the stuff is coming from as long as it’s great quality and I’m getting what I’ve paid for. like you said – they hide it from the customer.
    we don’t control the manufacturing process, we haven’t seen the places in which the goods are produced, so it could be anywhere.

  • Empress

    The fact that I want to purchase an Italian/French/USA made handbag that comes from China is frustrating. The only control/option I have is, option not to buy the product. I understand this is a NEW brand by the house of Hermes. There is HERMES – FRANCE and SHANG XIA – CHINA, two completely different entities although under one corporation. It will be interesting to see the new brand and the traditional craftmanship. Will I buy one? No, but I won’t be buying anything by Hermes France anyway…

  • Karen

    It’s a tease, right? What a BAD mistake for a brand that NEVER discount their products! There are already top-quality fake Hermes from China that has the stamps, box, locks, ribbons, and the whole 9 yards that they can imitate. So much for “authenticity”. So, what’s the difference from buying a fake from China or a real authentic Hermes from China except for $$$$. They might as well open a factory outlet store! That’s frustrating for those who saves up to buy the real thing!

    • http://www.purseblog.com/ Amanda Mull

      Well, the difference would be that Hermes does not and will not be making their bags in China. They’re launching a Chinese brand, that is not the same as Hermes, that will make items that appeal to the growing Chinese luxury market.

  • Linda

    Say as you will. I would never trust Hermes! Once they launch something like that, it makes the consumer feel guarded and skeptical. They lose my vote and I’m sure many many others!

  • Loquita

    I am very curious and even more skeptical about this development, but let’s wait and see…

  • JT

    I guess coming from Asia makes a difference on my stand on this one, since 90% of our things already come from China anyway. I think given our situation, we have mastered the art of screening EVERY single thing we buy from grocery to clothes, shoes and bags. Well, my family and most people I know anyway.

    So I don’t reeeally take into account the origins of my bags as long as I feel that their design/material/quality/workmanship justify the price tag. My Coach bags are made in China and aren’t too bad, though my mom refuses to buy them anymore after comparing their workmanship now and hers from more than 10 years ago. I’ve got a few others from Chloe, a Fendi selleria, Chanel etc and they’re all holding up pretty well.

    However, my Balenciaga with the made in Italy stamp disappoints me most as it’s wearing out really fast! I suppose it’s partly due to the way I handle my bags too since I still go to school and throw my bags around sometimes. That said, I use my large Paraty a hell lot too and it’s still in a very good condition. (Buy Chloe, their leather is really tough! :)

    So I suppose from my own personal experiences, I’d buy a bag from Shang Sia only if I think it’s worth it.

  • gacats

    I have a problem with China due to human rights abuses.
    I will try not to judge, and give this a fair chance to work.

  • bearnan

    I don’t understand why some groups of people always have bias toward Asian esp Chinese. Human beings are unavoidably have his/her preferences.but it doesn’t have to turn into hatred. Does so-called “Human Rights” even exist in this society?Many people in ountries are said to have human rights are suffering too. Try to understand a nation is important before the ignorant judgement.and remember don’t read from media go there and experience it…
    I wonder if U.S. and most of the third world countries stop importing from the third world countries, how they can still live on a relatively low-cost living!

    If you don’t like it don’t buy it. don’t disgrace China. God won’t like it!

    • wendy

      I agree! you guys don’t understand the history and what China is about. Even though I was born and raised in NYC, I always took the time to learn about Chinese culture and history. I mean if people hate Chinese products so much, why do people still continue to buy. I don’t get it. Chinese consumers are very important clients for designers and marketing to China makes sense.

  • wendy

    It is very ignorant of you guys to say that things that come out of China is of poor quality. This is untrue. And who really cares if you won’t buy something from China. It is not like they depend on your money because I know plenty of people who will continue to buy products from China. Stop purchasing most of the things America sells because fyi, it’s from China. Seriously, get your facts right before you criticize. I’m Chinese American and I am so proud to see the revolution of China. And thanks Amanda for standing up for Chinese products!

  • Diane

    I don’t think many of you get this is a Chinese Brand. They’re not moving anything “Hermes” to be made in China. But I want to let you guys know that I went to China this winter, and the Chinese market is a thousand times bigger than the US. Almost every woman in urban China yearns for luxury brands and are willing to pay top dollar for the real stuff. Whereas in the US, retail sales are plummeting because few women find it sensible to spend most of their income on one item. There are lines outside Shanghai’s Louis Vuitton and most luxury items cost 2-3x as much as they do in the US and even Hong Kong. Hermes, I feel, are extremely intelligent to want to tap further into that market (Louis Vuitton still reign in China), but I really don’t know if that name, Shang Xia, is really marketable because I think it’ll look awful on a bag.

    • Shoppa Holique

      Well hermes doesn’t bank on recognisable prints and monograms (im aware certain bag designs have H on them) as with LV’s monogram and damier prints. so the name on their bags will probably not be a big problem. besides, maybe shang xia looks good written in mandarin

  • mimi

    chinese made good are not horrible it’s the cheap crap yhat companies design to be produced. And another thing, I sell handbags and cannot stand when someone makes a big fuss over where it’s made, when I know for a FACT that their clothing, shoes, cosmetics, and accessories that they are so proudly sporting are all made in….drum roll please…CHINA! I agree with you guys the US media bashes everything to start some never lasting snowball effect. Know the manufacturing process and business matters before judging. China is their own country, they live their way; that’s America’s problem…we are a very ego-centric country, constantly imposing our views and beliefs good or bad on everyone else. One more thing, if a company really kept all the manufacturing and assembly to the US and other European countries, you idiots would pass out @ the final retail price and wouldn’t be able to afford a thing with your miniscule salary. FIN

    • Merve

      I think the final retail price would stay the same. Its about increasing the companies’ profit margins.

      • Shoppa Holique

        agree with mimi, face it labour is cheaper in asia, that’s why you americans are losing your jobs to indians and filipinos

      • lilobubbletea

        Shoppa, why are you referring to Americans? The WHOLE WORLD imports from China. Study first before you talk.

        And unemployment in certain markets/industries create human resources for other industries that are going through shortages.

  • Kate B.

    Great article, Amanda! I love your writing.

  • Merve

    I think maybe Hermes is trying to tap in on the beautful prints that can be made in china. For example the very exclusive and expensive De Gournay interior design house has a chinoiserie dept with amazing hand painted silk walk hangings or wall papers. Not everything out of China is 2nd rate. I also agree that China is a huge market so I can see the attraction for any company to get involved there.

    • Shoppa Holique

      With the labour force in China, I sure hope there will be no waiting lists!

  • Serayane

    I’m intrigued. I hope the items will turn out to be nice, and won’t only be sold in China.

  • MAX

    Well it’s ok as long as there’s no Birkin stamped Hermes Paris MADE IN CHINA for $10000

    • An4

      hermes isn’t moving to china, they’re making a new brand.
      but anyway, I have to ask – why do you say that? if it’s the same leather and production process and there’s a chinese craftsman who is the best at it, better than all the guys working in france – wouldn’t you want him to make your bag?

  • hec

    to my perception its hermes they will not put themeselves outhere for something they just do not belive in i do think its a step forward and companys such as hermes stepping in to the chineese panoramic view of what quality means signifies that one, first move, into accepting the truth of today not all of chinese products are bad yet they still hold a certain sense of doubt arround them but if someone is going to introduce a new brand in my mind and if its going to be chineese hermes is my guide and i trust !

  • kitty

    Very exciting news! I can’t wait to see the products :)

  • mary s

    personally, it would amazing to see a brand that embraces traditional and exemplary Chinese craftmanship. when everything was hand made by artisans who trained for years and ohhh i can just see delicious embroidery, all by hand, and superfine, super detailed bone white china made the old fashioned way…

    its a different brand and it wont be coming to hermes of paris but its still cool.

  • STEVE

    I had a conversation with the store manager of Bottega Veneta at South Coast Plaza (Los Angeles) and the she was lamenting the fact that so many so-called luxury brands are produced in China.

    She worked 12 years for Gucci and witnessed the decline of quality in much of the collections. Not everything mind you, but enough to be concerned that luxury at Gucci was questionable. Their shoes are now made by Chinese labor imported to Italy and working in slave like conditions.

    She knows the staff at Louis Vuitton and they are quietly nauseous that people would spend thousands for Chinese made products that costs $20 to produce. I worked at Coach for 5 years and we (staff) would rarely use our employee discount because we knew how poorly made the items were. Everyday was a steady stream of customers bringing in items for repair or to be replaced because thread/seams unraveled, discoloration, and hardware falling apart.

    I understand the distinction; Hermes is establishing a Chinese exclusive brand. But the association fosters negative thoughts. I was going to buy a men’s tote from Hermes but I’m not so sure now. Maybe I will stick with Bottega Veneta for the rest of my life. The last true luxury house.

    • bearnan

      Chinese labors were not paid enough that should be blamed on the capitalists luxury brands owners. isn’t it? bad working condition + low wages, how could we expect someone make the best products! Pursuing luxuary goods are your choices, but being ironic will not help to ‘upgrade social status’.

    • Angie

      that’s correct. Many people don’t know that those high priced luxury brands are only “made” in Italy, whereas the raw materials are made elsewhere, as in China or other third world country where raw materials are cheaper – as stated on the ARTICLE above.
      So many products are made in China or are connected to it, and many people are fussing about it. I think that the luxury brands do secretly have a connection with China one way or another to keep costs down (we just don’t know about it) because if we knew, people would be questioning why the prices are so high when it’s made in China (because labor and raw materials there are cheaper), so it’s very unreasonable for a luxury brand to mark up the price to thousands of dollars. Brands admittedly made in China are cheaper. LAMB, Bebe, Harajuku Lovers, Elizabeth and James (raw materials are from China), Steve Madden, Juicy Couture (raw materials are from China) are a few of so many brands that’s connected to China.
      So all you people that’s fussing about Chinese materials can fuck off cause look around you, almost everything is made in China. Even our country owes money to China.

    • katia

      I love Bottega Veneta and I tought it was one of the last true luxury houses since I discovered throgh an italian tv program that their cross leather bags were made in Vicenza (where the brand was born) by chinese clandestines….
      I think luxury is about quality, (of course) but also about savoir-faire, that is what make me dream when I buy a luxury object.

      But today I wonder whether real luxury still exist or not….I am very sorry that europeans lost their know own . Many brands haven’t had a long term vision when they outsourced and they haven’t preserved their savoir-faire.

      At least Hermès preserves 14 “metièrs” and I think it is an intelligent brand that wont
      disappoint his clients expectations.

  • Erin

    ANYONE who believes “luxury product” made in China does not suffer a loss of integrity, both in quality and company image, clearly has head their head in the sand and has not closely examined the workmanship that has diminished from the luxury market. Is China an emerging global economic market that has an eye and want for a brand? Yes. Is the product that is being machine sewn, versus hand sewn and finished, the same quality? NO! Just pick up one piece of any “Designer” that makes it’s product in China. The quality has diminished, the piece is rarely fully finished, and the stitching does not match up on the seams. Get real, people. If you pay $2000 for a luxury piece made in China, you are getting robbed. I understand why companies have sold out and gone to China for production, margins are tighter than ever in the luxury marketplace and the labor comes cheap in China. But at what price? The entire notion disgusts me.

    • piyu1154

      amazing that you totally discriminate against a nation and have stock stereotypes – your type are the typical racist ranting White person condescending type who will faunt over Asians so that you can dig their wallets to hold your faltering economies

  • Catherine Fossati

    I think Hermes did their homework and took time to understand the Chinese culture.

    It’s an absolutely huge market that European luxury brands are having a hard time breaking into using the traditional methods. The Chinese already know how to make high end bags. IT bag brands have taught them. The Chinese consumer does not see why they should pay thousands for a bag when they can buy the same thing for $25.

    Speculation from sources like ft.com predict it is only a matter of time before China starts launching their own luxury brands. Hermes is breaking into the market in what is probably the only way a US or European brand can. By funding a Chinese brand.

    Hermes is smart.

  • Melody

    Anyone who lives in US and the rest of the developed world are blindfolded about the fact that their low-cost living are to great extent attributable to China and hard working Chinese people making inexpensive products. Hypocrites who disagree please ONLY buy French/Italy/US made bath towels, socks, etc which makes up 99% of Walmart shelves. Also, wouldn’t quality control/product design part of US company’s responsibility? Shouldn’t they also be held for the poor working conditions/long hours? Haven’t it occurred to you guys that it’s Coach and Gucci’s own fault to increase production in pursuit of profits and make their goods proliferate everywhere at the expense of lower quality? Whoever say Chinese well-made luxury goods should be paid less are the worst human rights abuser, they are also people, if they got the skills to make extremely nice products, shouldn’t they be paid equally? Wake up hypocrites!

    • lilobubbletea

      Touche!!

  • guest

    “…feature products made from Chinese materials and techniques…”. What does that mean? Lead + Cadmium + under age gymnastic = Hermes’ bags are about to become very heavy and petite.

  • ueynah

    I suspect that given the name (Shang Xia), this brand is meant for Chinese consumers, who is becoming one of the fastest growing consumer segment in the world. Just look at the mainland Chinese tourists flooding LV and Hermes in Paris EVERY DAY.

    As for those above who commented that they would never buy made in china products, i would suggest a reading of the book “A Year Without “Made in China”: One Family’s True Life Adventure in the Global Economy”.

    yes, some made in china products are shoddily made but so are others made in other countries. made in china are highlighted because they occupy a HUGE portion of the items we used in our daily lives from beach chair, ipod to clothing. furthermore, made in japan (60s), made in taiwan (80s) all used to have the same type of reputation that made in china has currently. as the standard of living improves in china, this should gradually change.

    made in china products are operated by entrepreneurs, local small business, multinational corporation and others in china that are not necessarily related to the Chinese government. i think it is important to recognize that these people may NOT share the same the political agenda of the Chinese government.

    • lilobubbletea

      But a lot of european brands and such are world class brands – I think the name doesn’t have to be a specific indicator of its final target market. I think the choice for the name is to represent the Chinese culture in terms of fashion more so than say, the parent company. Since the writer did say that the chinese craftsmanship will be incorporated into the making of the goods, it again just seems like they are trying to spread the fashion culture of China. I think it is really smart to do so considering the country doesn’t have very strong of a “fashion voice” of their own.

      I agree with you on the whole factor – I can’t believe there are people in here who are stating such ignorant things about products that come out of China. I hope they know that a lot of what comes out of China at certain quality levels and price points, is because it’s demanded and negotiated by the importing companies here in the U.S. And everyone knows – you get what you pay for.

  • Catherine Shi Qiu

    Quite hilarious, really, when I think the delightful majority here haven’t set foot in Beijing. It’s nice, isn’t it? Nice, I mean, that people love spewing forth opinions on things they know absolutely nothing about.

    • Anonymous

      Touche’!

    • STEVE

      ^^^^^^What? Your weak, dismissive argument is invalid. Just saying that people “know absolutely nothing” about China is without merit. What people DO KNOW around the globe, is that China puts out inferior product. You don’t have “set foot in Beijing” to know that.

      If you are such an apologist/defender of their integrity, name three Chinese luxury brands that people respect worldwide. Otherwise, the Chinese have such poor faith in their own, they have an insatiable thirst for all things foreign: Armani,Gucci, Louis Vuitton, Bottega Veneta,Dior,Coach, the list is endless…all of these brands have set up shop in China because the citizens cannot get enough of it.

      • kc

        So true.

        These “entrepreneurs” (who are really people w/ connections in high places) have factories that make fake gucci’s or burberry’s or toys w/ high lead content, etc, etc. Yet, you should them shop in Hong Kong or Paris at all the top name brand stores. They literally hoard bags, scarves, shoes like there’s no tomorrow. Why don’t they patronize the products made in their own factories.

        And I’m not ignorant. I’m 100% Chinese. But it’s time we face the facts so that we can improve and correct things.

        Do I think all made in china products are bad? Of course not. But let’s face it, as long as these factories make lots of money… who cares about quality nor safety?! And believe me, the government knows about all these things.

        And it makes me angry that the majority of Chinese people are still poor. People in Beijing and Shanghai DO NOT represent the Chinese population.

  • lilobubbletea

    I think that the writer is correct – it really comes down to structural oversight and the parent company’s commitment to quality control. To be completely honest, you can’t always blame the manufacturers of China for poorly manufactured product. First, their resources are limited not only in terms of capital – but that directly affects the fixed assets they can obtain to manufacture goods. Second, it is just as responsible for the buyers (importers, retailers, and exporters) to inspect the quality of the goods being sold to the end users.

    Though I am intrigued at this business decision made by Hermes. The fact that one of the world’s most prestigious brands would invest into China is quite interesting. I mean, China is known for a lot of great things and their skills in craftsmanship are impeccable – granted, you do get what you pay for, but this is true anywhere. I think that if Hermes is able to hire on people with the right skills and run the manufacturing facilities properly, then it should be fine. I look forward to seeing the business’s new outputs.

  • justa9url

    Being Chinese myself, it’s very offensive to see so many discriminatory comments and ignorance from PurseBlog readers. But THANK YOU to those who see more than one side of the story.

  • abitnerdy

    Oh la la, Hermes is ahead of their time. Can’t wait to see what this has in store for us.

  • Joe

    I think there’s a huge misunderstanding here: When consumers in China buy luxury products from Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Chanel, Hermes, etc., they are not concentrating on the quality aspect, but the prestige that comes with these brands. Actually, there are already similar craftsmanship existing in China, and they cost a fraction of the premium these brands charge. These foreign brands, however, possess the magic symbol of higher social status. Interestingly, the level of prestige is inversely proportional to the familiarity of the originating countries to Chinese people: Korea, Japan, USA, UK, France, Italy…

    So what Hermes cleverly did was simply using their brand effect to jump-start a new brand that caters the fast-growing needs of the Chinese domestic market. I’m sure the brand slogan will be something like “Shang Xia, born in China, with a French heritage by Hermes”.

    Lastly, about things made in China are inferior in quality and problem-prone, that is only the result of cost-cutting techniques employed by Western retailers. In other words, you get what you paid for. There are many high quality products that are produced and reserved for the Chinese domestic market. The same goes for Japan, i.e. JDM is always known as the best of the best.

  • chris

    Some people buy Hermes, LV, and Chanel because of the fact that they are “made in Italy” and “made in France”; and when Burberry started having made-in-China products, many people stopped buying them (just read the purse forum). Therefore, Hermes’s creation of this brand, having “made in china” logo, to diffuse into the Chinese market, might not be a good strategy.

    p.s. And, I am sure the luxury brand strategic teams are monitoring the purse blog to get a better understanding of the consumers’ minds — which makes me feel being used for sharing with the girls.

  • Gracie

    Personally, I buy Hermes because I know people will see what I’m carrying and know that I am obviously better than they are. Why else would anyone spend $2300 on a goatskin wallet or $500 on a beach towel when they could get something that looks nearly the same at Macy’s? Why because we ARE better than people who don’t have money. I need people to know I can afford the best.

    So, let Hermes go make products in China. They can say Sayonara to my money!

    • Ren

      Girl, i like your honesty :P

      I’m half-Chinese and i am waaaay offended with some of the comments here. But from the looks of it i’m guessing most of you never set a foot in China and still have the image of The Poor China 30 years ago. Open your eyes and wake up, the qualities of Chinese goods are starting to get better, don’t get your noses too up in the air just because you can afford a Made in Italy stuffs

    • jenny

      STUPID !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Elyse

    does this mean I now need to go to china? (fb)

  • jenny

    Gracie I hope you are young because if you are a mature person thinking that we buy an expensive bag to show that we are better because of the money … A person thinking like that should go to a therapist, have more real friends, read books ….BECAUSE THAT IS A SICK THINKING….. I decided to spend my money on Chanel because I like good quality, unique designs and maybe showing off depending what place I go but I am NOT thinking that I am better because I am wearing a Chanel bag, FINALLY IS A BAG… DO NOT BE SILLY I KNOW PEOPLE WITH A LOT OF MONEY THAT DO NOT BUY PREMIUM DESIGNER AT ALL.. IF I WERE THEM I WILL BUY A DESIGNER EVERY DAY ..

    • Jennifer

      I too hope Gracie is just young, immature and ignorant.

      Because carrying a branded bag doesn’t make you a better person. It is totally disgusting to think people think that way. Gosh it means that people like me will be a ‘good’ person 2 days a week and a ‘horrible and don’t have money’ the other 5 days, because of my bag preferences.

      If you are a good person, you would be able to show that without any branded stuff on you, at your most plainest, people will still think you are a good person. That is when you can say that. Otherwise, don’t.

  • ME

    Before you discriminate chinese people, First (1). Get you’re wallet, compare you’re your money in your wallet and in your bank account, to one chinese housewife, you will be very ashamed of yourself. 2. Dont judge generally, yeeah its true that most of the product coming from China has really poor quality, but not all. I’ve been to China many times, where else can you see both men and women walk around all day long carrying Hermes, Chanel, Gucci, LV. and where else can you see children going to school bagging a Louis Vuitton? And i can confidentaly acknowledge their bags to be authentic, they pay top dollars to just be in trend. Yeah China is one of the world’s leadest fake luxury bag making country, but they don’t dig the fake ones they go for the authentic, and the question is where do does fake bags go? You know where,, in your closet … especially does who like to discriminate people but look at your self,, poor as a rat.:))

  • hundae

    I’m from Korea. Actually Korea has lots of top grade counterfait luxury products, i can say u can find the best chanel knock off 2.55 in Korea. yay!

  • lizz

    Hermes already uses a Chinese work force in Italy. Many of the craftsmen are dying out and their children are moving out to see the rest of the world. My issue is the price wll be cheaper for Hermes but no change for the consumer. After reading Bringing Home the Birkin, you realize that Hermes is not a humble institution.

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  • marie

    hi i think we should not discriminate, im not a chinese, well, whether HERMES will launch or not launch in china , or make or not make their product in China, non of us care, because we are not the owners, investors of hermes, if it loses money, so what? i personally would still buy hermes even if its made in china, most of you guys does not even own an hermes. so why comment .? just using this issue to make an excuse to not buy, open your eyes and check your wallet if you can afford one. Maybe hermes just wanted to impress their BIGGEST clients in the who world, asia, China.

  • Christine

    Go check out the Shang Xia website. The New Chinese Brand has nothing to do with purses or other Hermes product. Everything made with traditional Chinese technique by Chinese craftmen. Their product are eggshell porcelain, bamboo weaving and traiditional wood furniture.

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